Kann man das so sagen?
Verfasst: So 16. Jan 2011, 17:26
Hallo Forum!
Eine Freundin und ich sollen eine Präsentation zum Präsentation zum Thema Waffen in Österreich geben. Wir müssen dabei unter anderem auch ein paar Sätze zum derzeitigen Zustand des österreichischen Waffenrechts sagen, obwohl das nicht unser Hauptthema ist. Könnte einer der Experten hier die folgenden paar Absätze überfliegen und mir sagen, ob das so geht oder ob wir noch grobe Fehler drinnen haben?
Wir möchten nicht zu viel Zeit mit Randgebieten und Spezialistenthemen wie Waffenrecht für Jäger, Waffenrecht für Polizisten oder WBKs bei Vorstrafen verbringen. Eine gewisses Maß an Verkürzung und Vereinfachung wird sich also nicht vermeiden lassen. Wir möchten aber andererseits auch nichts behaupten, was schlicht und einfach falsch ist. Wir sind dankbar für jeden Hinweis auf jeden Schnitzer.
Wenn wir gut ankommen, stellen wir die lecture notes nachher vielleicht irgendwo ins Internet.
Vielen Dank schon mal im Voraus!
Gun control in the European Union is comparatively strict; gun control in the
Republic of Austria is tight even by Union standards and has been for some time.
You can buy shotguns and rifles; your shotguns have to be single shot and your
rifles have to have manual actions. You need to register your rifles with the
authorities. Starting in 2012 you also need to register shotguns.
You need a gun ownership permit to buy repeating shotguns, self-loading rifles or
shotguns, or handguns. To obtain this permit you will need to file a formal account
for the reason you want to buy a firearm. Even though one way to do this
is simply stating you want to be prepared to defend your home, you are technically
submitting yourself for questioning: you are applying for a privilege, not invoking
a right. Aside from justifying yourself you will have to produce a certificate of
technical proficiency handling firearms and a separate certificate of mental stability.
Of course you will also have to register your handguns, multiple-shot shotguns,
and semi-automatic rifles with the authorities.
Your permit will not allow you to own more than two guns restricted in this way at
any one time; if you want an arsenal of apocalypse as gargantuan as three pistols,
or perhaps two pistols and a semi-auto .22 LR target rifle, you need a special
extension to your special permit first. The rationale for this seems to be that an
adequately competent psychotic spree shooter wielding triple Glocks would be
infinitely more devastating than one who merely wields dual.
You cannot carry firearms in public, neither open nor concealed. You cannot carry
guns on private property, open or concealed, except with explicit prior permission
by the owner or a properly credentialled custodian; even then you can only carry
indoors or on ground fenced in or otherwise enclosed. You cannot even carry on
your own property except where surrounded by walls or fences. You need a
separate carry permit if you want to pack in any place not clearly and permanently
closed off to the general public. To obtain this permit you will have to convince the
local police or your district magistrate that you need to lug loaded guns around in
pursuance of your wildlife preservation duties, or that you are likely to be attacked
in public, significantly more so than the average person. The authorities do not like
issuing these permits and are not convinced easily.
Absent a carry permit you need to keep your firearm unloaded and in a closed
container on your way to your gun range or your hunting grounds, and you need to
spend the least time reasonably possible to get there. The Ministry of the Interior
advises that stopping to buy gas and perhaps taking a bathroom break would be
legal even though the language of the law is ambiguous in these points.
The above is fairly crude as summaries go and glosses over quite a few details.
Some of these details one could see as bordering on the authoritarian if one were
so inclined. If you have an ownership permit or a carry permit police are authorized
to inspect your home and examine your arms, their papers, and the rooms they
are kept in, essentially any time they like. They do not need a warrant. They do not
need to so much as assert, much less demonstrate, probable cause for believing
you have actually done anything wrong. They are in fact required by law to inspect
your home in general and your guns in particular at least once every five years.
It could be said that by applying for a permit you have signed away a not entirely
insignificant part of your right to the privacy of your home.
Other details border more on the silly. Your repeating shotgun can be bolt action
or lever action but pump action is verboten; your rifle can be pump action though.
A smoothbore gun you shorten to less than ninety centimeters becomes subject to
the same restrictions that apply to machine guns and military grenade launchers;
a rifle simply turns into a statutory handgun when shortened to less than sixty.
Laser sights and night vision scopes are legal; tactical lights are not.
Since your right to keep and bear arms is a privilege and not a right proper you can
be stripped of it easily. No criminal conviction or other court involvement is required;
all that is necessary is for the local police or district magistrate to decide you are
not Reliable. The law specifies a few examples of what is to be considered proof of
Insufficient Reliability; it does not hold the bureaucracy to any standards as to
what is not. There is precious little in terms of due process; you have no right to
even be heard. You can and probably will be declared Unreliable if you have your
car stolen and there is a varmint rifle in the trunk.
Eine Freundin und ich sollen eine Präsentation zum Präsentation zum Thema Waffen in Österreich geben. Wir müssen dabei unter anderem auch ein paar Sätze zum derzeitigen Zustand des österreichischen Waffenrechts sagen, obwohl das nicht unser Hauptthema ist. Könnte einer der Experten hier die folgenden paar Absätze überfliegen und mir sagen, ob das so geht oder ob wir noch grobe Fehler drinnen haben?
Wir möchten nicht zu viel Zeit mit Randgebieten und Spezialistenthemen wie Waffenrecht für Jäger, Waffenrecht für Polizisten oder WBKs bei Vorstrafen verbringen. Eine gewisses Maß an Verkürzung und Vereinfachung wird sich also nicht vermeiden lassen. Wir möchten aber andererseits auch nichts behaupten, was schlicht und einfach falsch ist. Wir sind dankbar für jeden Hinweis auf jeden Schnitzer.
Wenn wir gut ankommen, stellen wir die lecture notes nachher vielleicht irgendwo ins Internet.
Vielen Dank schon mal im Voraus!
Gun control in the European Union is comparatively strict; gun control in the
Republic of Austria is tight even by Union standards and has been for some time.
You can buy shotguns and rifles; your shotguns have to be single shot and your
rifles have to have manual actions. You need to register your rifles with the
authorities. Starting in 2012 you also need to register shotguns.
You need a gun ownership permit to buy repeating shotguns, self-loading rifles or
shotguns, or handguns. To obtain this permit you will need to file a formal account
for the reason you want to buy a firearm. Even though one way to do this
is simply stating you want to be prepared to defend your home, you are technically
submitting yourself for questioning: you are applying for a privilege, not invoking
a right. Aside from justifying yourself you will have to produce a certificate of
technical proficiency handling firearms and a separate certificate of mental stability.
Of course you will also have to register your handguns, multiple-shot shotguns,
and semi-automatic rifles with the authorities.
Your permit will not allow you to own more than two guns restricted in this way at
any one time; if you want an arsenal of apocalypse as gargantuan as three pistols,
or perhaps two pistols and a semi-auto .22 LR target rifle, you need a special
extension to your special permit first. The rationale for this seems to be that an
adequately competent psychotic spree shooter wielding triple Glocks would be
infinitely more devastating than one who merely wields dual.
You cannot carry firearms in public, neither open nor concealed. You cannot carry
guns on private property, open or concealed, except with explicit prior permission
by the owner or a properly credentialled custodian; even then you can only carry
indoors or on ground fenced in or otherwise enclosed. You cannot even carry on
your own property except where surrounded by walls or fences. You need a
separate carry permit if you want to pack in any place not clearly and permanently
closed off to the general public. To obtain this permit you will have to convince the
local police or your district magistrate that you need to lug loaded guns around in
pursuance of your wildlife preservation duties, or that you are likely to be attacked
in public, significantly more so than the average person. The authorities do not like
issuing these permits and are not convinced easily.
Absent a carry permit you need to keep your firearm unloaded and in a closed
container on your way to your gun range or your hunting grounds, and you need to
spend the least time reasonably possible to get there. The Ministry of the Interior
advises that stopping to buy gas and perhaps taking a bathroom break would be
legal even though the language of the law is ambiguous in these points.
The above is fairly crude as summaries go and glosses over quite a few details.
Some of these details one could see as bordering on the authoritarian if one were
so inclined. If you have an ownership permit or a carry permit police are authorized
to inspect your home and examine your arms, their papers, and the rooms they
are kept in, essentially any time they like. They do not need a warrant. They do not
need to so much as assert, much less demonstrate, probable cause for believing
you have actually done anything wrong. They are in fact required by law to inspect
your home in general and your guns in particular at least once every five years.
It could be said that by applying for a permit you have signed away a not entirely
insignificant part of your right to the privacy of your home.
Other details border more on the silly. Your repeating shotgun can be bolt action
or lever action but pump action is verboten; your rifle can be pump action though.
A smoothbore gun you shorten to less than ninety centimeters becomes subject to
the same restrictions that apply to machine guns and military grenade launchers;
a rifle simply turns into a statutory handgun when shortened to less than sixty.
Laser sights and night vision scopes are legal; tactical lights are not.
Since your right to keep and bear arms is a privilege and not a right proper you can
be stripped of it easily. No criminal conviction or other court involvement is required;
all that is necessary is for the local police or district magistrate to decide you are
not Reliable. The law specifies a few examples of what is to be considered proof of
Insufficient Reliability; it does not hold the bureaucracy to any standards as to
what is not. There is precious little in terms of due process; you have no right to
even be heard. You can and probably will be declared Unreliable if you have your
car stolen and there is a varmint rifle in the trunk.
