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SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: So 18. Jul 2010, 09:46
von snakedocter
Elite Border Protection unit adopts new 7.62x51mm NATO select-fire rifle!
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Office of Air & Marine Air Interdiction Agent J.P. checks the ELCAN SpecterDR optic on his issued FN SCAR Heavy MK17 Air Crew Rifle participating in an OAM Black Hawk helicopter mission along the U.S./ Mexico Border in Arizona.

For several years after the terrorist attacks of 9/11/01, a modified M14 rifle with a Sage stock, an EOTech optic and a PQ 14 Laser was the OAM (Office of Air and Marine) ACR (Air Crew Rifle) that was carried in harm’s way during interdiction operations, enforcement actions and air-space security missions. After using the modified M14 Air Crew Rifle for several years, the day was soon approaching when the OAM inventory of modified Vietnam-vintage M14s would have to be replaced.

Selected For Its Ability
Eventually, the decision was made to adopt the FN SCAR Heavy MK17 because this modern modular battle rifle had been thoroughly tested and eventually adopted as the official 7.62×51 caliber SCAR (Special Operations Combat Assault Rifle) for use by USSOCOM personnel. A second FN SCAR rifle known as the SCAR Light in 5.56 x 45mm caliber was also adopted by the U.S. Special Operations Command.

According to SAIA (Supervisory Air Interdiction Agent) Scott Pilon, a former USAF Special Operations Command aerial gunner and ACR instructor who is the current national program manager of the ACR and ADF (Air Disabling Fire) programs in Washington, D.C., “The Office of Air and Marine Air Crew Rifle Program exists to provide an enhanced airborne precision marksmanship capability for law enforcement operations domestically and abroad. The Office of Air and Marine identified a need for a new weapon system to support LE operations and replace the aging M14 platform. The new weapon system was required to have outstanding accuracy in all conditions, reliability, and be mission adaptable from the aircraft to dismounted operations. This transition required more than just changing the weapon system. OAM recognized the need to adopt a dual-role optic that would be capable of meeting our diverse operational requirements. The optic that met these needs was the ELCAN SpecterDR.”
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OAM Tests All The Best
Even though the MK17 was “good to go” as far as USSOCOM was concerned for SOF purposes, OAM decided to conduct its own ACR T&E, to ensure their final selection from available platforms would be the best for their purpose as well. According to Aviation Enforcement Officer Todd Sager, each OAM evaluator took a turn testing various rifles including the MK17 and filled out a questionnaire that was tallied at the end of the field test. Even though some of the other rifles performed satisfactorily in many regards, the group of OAM testers selected the FN SCAR Heavy MK 17 with the 16-inch standard barrel as their new Air Crew Rifle.

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: So 18. Jul 2010, 12:12
von Vintageologist
Das MK17 wäre wirklich eines der Gewehre, dass ich mich zu Weihnachten wünschen würde :)

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: So 18. Jul 2010, 12:15
von woodchuck
da musst du aber ganz, ganz, ganz brav sein :lol:

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: So 18. Jul 2010, 12:52
von snakedocter
woodchuck hat geschrieben:da musst du aber ganz, ganz, ganz brav sein :lol:



oder deitscher sportschütz :idea:

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: So 18. Jul 2010, 14:56
von >Michael<
woodchuck hat geschrieben:da musst du aber ganz, ganz, ganz brav sein :lol:

Ganz im gegenteil, du musst ganz ganz böse sein, dann kannst du alles haben! :twisted: 8-)

Schade um das M14 EBR; die sind im Gegensatz zu den SCAR viel schöner und haben mehr Charme.

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: So 18. Jul 2010, 15:37
von Vintageologist
>Michael< hat geschrieben:Schade um das M14 EBR; die sind im Gegensatz zu den SCAR viel schöner und haben mehr Charme.


Anfliegende 168gr haben immer Charme.

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: So 18. Jul 2010, 15:44
von >Michael<
Vintageologist hat geschrieben:
>Michael< hat geschrieben:Schade um das M14 EBR; die sind im Gegensatz zu den SCAR viel schöner und haben mehr Charme.


Anfliegende 168gr haben immer Charme.



Und eine herzerreissende Wirkung. :lol:

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: So 18. Jul 2010, 17:52
von snakedocter
Schade um das M14 EBR; die sind im Gegensatz zu den SCAR viel schöner und haben mehr Charme.


und sind auch viel präziser ;)

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: So 18. Jul 2010, 18:31
von woodchuck
snakedocter hat geschrieben:
Schade um das M14 EBR; die sind im Gegensatz zu den SCAR viel schöner und haben mehr Charme.


und sind auch viel präziser ;)


ernsthaft?

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: So 18. Jul 2010, 18:43
von sandman
snakedocter hat geschrieben:
Schade um das M14 EBR; die sind im Gegensatz zu den SCAR viel schöner und haben mehr Charme.


und sind auch viel präziser ;)


Da hast Du aber schon einmal etwas anderes geschrieben und in diversen Ami Foren gelten die diversen DMRs auch als präziser.

Grüße

Sandman

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: So 18. Jul 2010, 23:26
von cobaltbomb
m1a sind im allgemeinen nicht sonderlich präzise.
soweit ich weiss sind da einige modifikationen notwendig damit die gut gehen

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: Mo 19. Jul 2010, 01:25
von Vintageologist
cobaltbomb hat geschrieben:m1a sind im allgemeinen nicht sonderlich präzise.
soweit ich weiss sind da einige modifikationen notwendig damit die gut gehen


Am wichtigsten sind Rails & Lampen!! :D

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: Mo 19. Jul 2010, 07:12
von snakedocter
sandman hat geschrieben:
snakedocter hat geschrieben:
Schade um das M14 EBR; die sind im Gegensatz zu den SCAR viel schöner und haben mehr Charme.


und sind auch viel präziser ;)


Da hast Du aber schon einmal etwas anderes geschrieben und in diversen Ami Foren gelten die diversen DMRs auch als präziser.

Grüße

Sandman


das MK17 ist auf langlebigkeit und fast wartungsfrei gebaut
gegen eine M14EBR hat das MK17 in der präzision leider nicht die nase vorne

in sachen präzision sind die USMC M14 DMR da sogar noch besser
jedoch sind das keine M1A von der stange sondern werden von grund auf umgebaut:
neuer lauf,NM gassystem,mcmills schaft,NM abzug ,handgebettet....

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: Mo 19. Jul 2010, 08:50
von snakedocter
Scar update

Took the Scar 17s out for a little range time. Was rushed for time and everyone wanted to shoot it so didn't get a chance to zero the weapon or do any accuracy testing. Fired about 360 rounds of ammo. Mostly Portuguese surplus, Federal FMJ, and a couple boxes of Peruvian ammo.

Once again everyone was surprised at the light weight. The recoil was noticeably less than other 7.62 semi auto rifles. One of my friends had an Armalite AR10 Carbine and one had a Springfield Armory Scout which we loaded up and had each shooter fire consecutively. Everyone was in agreement that the Scar 17s had noticeably less recoil as well as muzzle climb. People watching the shooter transition through the three weapons could notice the reduced recoil and muzzle climb of the Scar 17s. I read somewhere that someone shot the 5.56 Scar and the 7.62 Scar and barely noticed a difference. Although the recoil was noticeably less than the other 7.62 rifles, anyone who has shot a lot of both caliber rifles will know you are shooting a 7.62. There's no mistaking it for a 5.56. The other thing you notice immediately is that the compensator makes the Scar 17s noticeably louder than the other two rifles. The Scar 17s send out quite a bark. Myself and one of my friends had the occasion to hold the forend too close to the reciprocating charging handle and got swatted by the handle. Nothing that hurt or caused a jam, but it's something you have to get used to if you normally hold your duty weapon on the forend close to the receiver.

The Scar 17s ran well except that as we were running out of 7.62 ammo, someone gave me a couple boxes of some tarnished Peru 7.62 surplus ammo. We had two jams with that Peruvian ammo where the bolt failed to completely close. It ran perfectly with the Federal and Portuguese surplus ammo. Very pleased with the performance so far. Will have to decide which optic I want to go with. Money is a big factor right now so may not get exactly what I would like to put on it. I didn't get a chance to clean it but will take some pics of the bolt and piston assy before I clean it.
25yards:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGJeWxvGBM

Re: SCAR MK17 BORDER DEFENDER

Verfasst: Mi 21. Jul 2010, 18:21
von sandman
snakedocter hat geschrieben:25yards:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGJeWxvGBM


Also ähnliche Streukreise schaffe ich auf 25 yards auch mit meiner Peters Stahl in .45 ACP, dafür brauch ich kein SCAR in .308......

Grüße

Sandman